tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post7705307501703786945..comments2023-09-22T06:22:50.820-06:00Comments on Ken Chapman: Stephen Harper - THE Small Man of Confederation.kenchapmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-79936789103943653072008-05-26T21:59:00.000-06:002008-05-26T21:59:00.000-06:00Anon @ 8:36 - another cowardly anonymous citizen w...Anon @ 8:36 - another cowardly anonymous citizen whimpering wantonly from the margins of society.kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-47869951681271400362008-05-26T21:55:00.000-06:002008-05-26T21:55:00.000-06:00Anon @ 8:38 - read the 9/11 Commission and see why...Anon @ 8:38 - read the 9/11 Commission and see why Bush ought to be impeached over the lies and deceit he, Cheney and Rumsfeld perpetrated over justifying invading Iraq. <BR/><BR/>Get your head out of the Bush Republican rectum and breath in some real freedom.kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-91088709746179340772008-05-26T20:38:00.000-06:002008-05-26T20:38:00.000-06:00In the UK, Labour set aside politics and did what ...In the UK, Labour set aside politics and did what was right: support freedom, liberty, and justice in liberating Iraq.<BR/><BR/>Oh and by the way, most UK conservative MP's were onside, further showing bipartisan support for the right thing to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-49645352281636962332008-05-26T20:36:00.000-06:002008-05-26T20:36:00.000-06:00It's downright wrong for a former Prime Minister t...It's downright wrong for a former Prime Minister to criticize a sitting one and that's what Joseph Clark has just done today. He deserves no honour. Shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-81835629288680405302008-05-25T17:51:00.000-06:002008-05-25T17:51:00.000-06:00My comments relative to "waffling on Middle Easter...My comments relative to "waffling on Middle Eastern politics" refer to the CPC government's poor handling of Canada's position on the 2006 Lebanon War. Then Foreign Minister MacKay's acrimonious approach and bellicose comments enraged Muslims and Arabs, and frankly, the government's decision to support the Bush administration's initial refusal to support a UN-brokered ceasefire meant that more civilians would die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-48435642340885484352008-05-25T11:44:00.000-06:002008-05-25T11:44:00.000-06:00Anon - it was a Labour UK government suported Bush...Anon - it was a Labour UK government suported Bush and not a Tory UK government. That Labour UK government is about to lose the next election now as a result of this policy on Iraq.<BR/><BR/>Good example of progressive politics...NOT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-558541479464209372008-05-25T11:30:00.000-06:002008-05-25T11:30:00.000-06:00You forget that it was the UK who supported the li...You forget that it was the UK who supported the liberation of Iraq. There goes your theory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-661465001271414272008-05-23T16:29:00.000-06:002008-05-23T16:29:00.000-06:00You know, it really bugs me when some people today...You know, it really bugs me when some people today can only equate conservatism only with the neo-conservative, Republican variety that we've seen crash and burn in the US and Australia.<BR/><BR/>We too quickly forget that traditional Toryism in Canada and the UK was not about the bottom line. Tory values have long been social harmony, concern over the welfare of the entire body social and body politic, uplift of the impoverished, community engagement, and respect for culture and heritage - these are classical Tory values. <BR/><BR/>Penny pinching, marginalizing opposition groups, overzealous tax cuts, making money for the sake of making money, allowing the elite to consolidate power without regard for greater society – this is neo-conservatism at its worst.<BR/><BR/>Rt. Hon. Clark is a quintessential Canadian Progressive Conservative. He's a man of great integrity and intelligence with a sharp mind for compassionate governance and sound public policy. He may not be the slickest guy or the most conniving politician, but that's exactly Ken's point! We need fewer politicians and backroom players in this country and more statesmen and legislators of character.<BR/><BR/>Taking pot shots at Dion; waffling on Middle Eastern foreign policy; alienating China; and cutting funding to culture, status of women, and the court challenges program is not good governance, and is absolutely antithetical to moderate progressive conservative values and policy. <BR/><BR/>SeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-5202979741465267572008-05-23T06:43:00.000-06:002008-05-23T06:43:00.000-06:00Hey Bob - how gracious was Joe Clark throughout hi...Hey Bob - how gracious was Joe Clark throughout his career? <BR/><BR/>Silent response? Thought so. 'Nuff sed.<BR/><BR/>As for the kool aid, Ken, Joe has many flavors - all which was served to the people who assisted him in his atempt to make the conservative movement into a second liberal party, something you clearly support.<BR/><BR/>Shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-48872173680146986932008-05-22T21:42:00.000-06:002008-05-22T21:42:00.000-06:00You got it Bob - power trips and tactics in a mean...You got it Bob - power trips and tactics in a mean spirited paternalism are the default Harper Con position for the PMO.<BR/><BR/>Resourceful, responsive, caring, nurturing and adaptive learning as a governing set of principles is not in their repetoire.<BR/><BR/>They equate bullying for strong management. Graciousness is about good governance and they don't feel they need nor do they know about either.kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-66389566434910771232008-05-22T18:46:00.000-06:002008-05-22T18:46:00.000-06:00Is ANON the name for Harper supporters?I know they...Is ANON the name for Harper supporters?<BR/><BR/>I know they are busy leaving comments all over the place in case anyone thinks that possible alternatives exist.<BR/><BR/>There is another word -- graciousness -- it does not belong in the new political world.<BR/><BR/>I hear that there are other ways to get things done in a minority government besides belittling the opposition and continuing dare them with "confidence" motionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-48352430620651797682008-05-22T17:15:00.000-06:002008-05-22T17:15:00.000-06:00Anon @ 4:44 - what flavour of Kool Aid does the PM...Anon @ 4:44 - what flavour of Kool Aid does the PMO make you guys drink?kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-19639641960537535962008-05-22T16:55:00.000-06:002008-05-22T16:55:00.000-06:00The very reasons Martin lost was his lack of leade...The very reasons Martin lost was his lack of leadership on the inquiry and Stephen Harper's incredible vision for this nation.<BR/><BR/>Given Harper's impecable record since 2006, I'd be surprised if he wasn't awarded a majority second only to Mulroney's sweep in 1984.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-55520821630127476032008-05-22T09:03:00.000-06:002008-05-22T09:03:00.000-06:00Anon @ 10:19 is the essence of the small mindednes...Anon @ 10:19 is the essence of the small mindedness I am talking about. Martin called for the judicial inquiry on the sponsorship scandel. That is and example of a quality of character in a politician.<BR/><BR/>Why has Mr. Harper delayed calling his promised inquiry on the Mulroney/Schreiber affair. Is this dely or denial of a serious political promise that goes to good governance for Canada the measure of Harper the man?<BR/><BR/>The Cons penchant for control and command political approaches is not good governing and Canadians are not only tied of it - they are now wary of the Cons because of it.kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-42415088577653772432008-05-21T22:19:00.000-06:002008-05-21T22:19:00.000-06:00I agree. If someone is your political enemy and y...I agree. If someone is your political enemy and you think he or she did a lot of damage to Canada, you should not show them any respect. Why should anyone respect Martin given the sponsorship scandal? Why should anyone support Dion who is willing to impose a carbon tax on some of the most vulnerable individuals of our society?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-52864908997160959322008-05-21T13:17:00.000-06:002008-05-21T13:17:00.000-06:00After the damage Joe Clark did to Canada there's n...After the damage Joe Clark did to Canada there's no way anyone should honor him. Harper is right to bow out gracefully.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-56222469196754362222008-05-19T23:19:00.000-06:002008-05-19T23:19:00.000-06:00Yes - the difference between the Conservative Part...Yes - the difference between the Conservative Party of Canada and the former Progressive Conservative Party of Canada is that the first one is truly conservative - the last one was running left of the Liberals under Joe Who.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-82603686795348113532008-05-19T22:40:00.000-06:002008-05-19T22:40:00.000-06:00eric, have you lost your mind? Whether Joe Clark w...eric, have you lost your mind? Whether Joe Clark was ineffectual or effectual is not the point. Harper should honour a former PM and not be small minded.<BR/><BR/>Anon 8:32 R us serious? Harper is a better leader than Clark so Clark desreves to be slighted? Is that your logic?<BR/><BR/>Your logic exyended suggests that Mr. Stelmach should refuse any honour to Don Getty or Raplh Klein.<BR/><BR/>That is silly. You are silly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-32195485781597928552008-05-19T18:14:00.000-06:002008-05-19T18:14:00.000-06:00Just like Dion, Joe Clark was an ineffectual leade...Just like Dion, Joe Clark was an ineffectual leader who was weak on many, many levels. <BR/><BR/>If the polls were in the Liberals favour, they would have called an election by now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-20197504264935132212008-05-19T10:44:00.000-06:002008-05-19T10:44:00.000-06:00Anon at 10:42 - Looking at the polls and the stati...Anon at 10:42 - Looking at the polls and the static "amount of people aligned with Harper" shows there is more uncertainty about him than any indication of a growing support.<BR/><BR/>My sense is he his past his best before date.<BR/><BR/>Go to my May 8th post on the survey done by the Canada West Foundation that shows westerners are moving to the centre.<BR/><BR/>The old line Reform Alliance types are living in a bubble if they don't see that shift happening.kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-81197418073488933662008-05-19T10:23:00.000-06:002008-05-19T10:23:00.000-06:00The whole country is moving right. Look at the am...The whole country is moving right. Look at the amount of people aligned with Harper, the greatest Prime Minister this country has ever seen, who have been elected to our provincial legislature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-39476898986572523352008-05-19T09:30:00.000-06:002008-05-19T09:30:00.000-06:00This is pretty strongly-worded post, Ken, but not ...This is pretty strongly-worded post, Ken, but not offbase. I am amazed by the comment by Anon@8:32.<BR/><BR/>It is a simple matter of courtesy and civility (not to mention the politics of inclusiveness) that a Prime Minister should honour his predecessors in the manner he hopes someday to be honoured. That ethic should override partisan considerations, much less the settling of old scores.<BR/><BR/>Shame on Harper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-7998302296017581892008-05-18T22:52:00.000-06:002008-05-18T22:52:00.000-06:00Mulroney killed the PROGRESSIVE Conservative party...Mulroney killed the PROGRESSIVE Conservative party and Peter McKay broke his word and sold it down the river to Stephen Harper for a cabinet post.<BR/><BR/>Never confuse Conservative with Progressive Conservative. They are very different things. That is why Joe Clark "hindered" Stephen Harper all the way along. That was a good thing but in the end deceit trumped principle and with the Harper Cons it has been that way ever since.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you on one thing. I blame Chretien and Martin Liberals for the current minority Harper government. Had their egos not gotten in the way, we would not be in the governance mess we are in today.kenchapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384045981190810115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31415271.post-89441839323534188892008-05-18T20:32:00.000-06:002008-05-18T20:32:00.000-06:00I applaud Stephen Harper in not attending this cer...I applaud Stephen Harper in not attending this ceremony. Were it not for Joe Clark, the conservative movement in Canada would have got together in 2000 and not 2004 and we would have been spared of a whole term of Chretien/Martin. It was only through Harper's incredible leadership that the merger and the victory in the 2006 election happened. Joe Clark did his best to hinder him all along the way.<BR/><BR/>Bets say Harper serves for 9 years, compared to Clark's 9 months. 'Nuff sed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com