What gives? It now appears from a coupe of sources that the Wildrose Alliance Party has a policy on floor-crossing MLAs contrary to the comments of their leader Danielle Smith that there is no party policy.
Brian Dell outlines some of his personal experience in trying to clarify the WAP policy on the issue. A floor-crosser has to have the support of the WAP leader, the local constituency and be subject to a by-election if the constituency wants one. Dell suggests an opinion poll in the constituency would suffice to determine if a by-election should be called or not.
When citizens cast ballots it is unclear if they are voting for a party, a candidate, a leader, a platform, an issue of just name recognition or any combination of these motivations. Do we elect politicians to exercise their best judegement or to reflect the majority opinion of their constiuents or perhaps some other controversial but perhaps more "enlightened" position on an issue?
When a politician says "my constituents are telling me such and such how do we know that is a true reflection? Who spoke to them, in what context and how is the will and state of mind of "the constitencyu" determined. It is not. It is totally subjective and most often framed as a convenience for the benefit of the politician or their political party or purposes. Let's be truthful here, almost every time you hear a pooiticina say "My constituency tells me..." it is all about spin, posturing and the self interest of the politician and nothing to do with the best interests or actual instructions of their constituents.
So to my point, thanks for waiting. The WAP policy on floor-crossing MLAs is easy and practical so far as the requiremetn of the consent of the leader and the local party organization is concerned. It is vague and vacuous when it come to the best interest and desires of the citizens that potential floor crosser is support represent. How is the policy supposed to determine if the citizens in that constituency approve of their MLA joining another party between elections?
Should a potential floor-crosser go public first and run a poll to see if they have citizen support for them to cross? What happens if the citizens say no don't go? Where does that leave the MLA? Unwanted by the "receiving" party and distrusted by their current party. It forces them into de facto independent status, something that the citizens in their constituency did not vote for either.
This is WAP policy on floor crossing is naive at best and pandering populism at worst. It is impractical. If a politician is unhappy in their current party or the party is unhapppy with them, the simple answer is they go independent - period. Then they can explain to their constituency the reasons for them leaving or the leader who turfs them can do the same. After that, if the independent MLA wants to join another party they can canvas and even poll their constituents to see if that is acceptable and judge themselves accordingly.
The reason this approach makes more sense is because we don't know how to respond to the wide array of reasons why people voted. But there needs to be more respect shown by politicians, leaders and parties for all of those reasons. If a politician is no long comfortable with their party, its leader or its policies, they need the flexibility to leave, just as the party or the leader needs the power to kick someone out of caucus. That should put them in an independent status and as far as the politician, leader or party power should come into play.
Moving from there to another party is something that the citizens must have a say in before it happens. A poll that asks if a by-election should be called if the independent wants to join another party is not a solution. But a petition of say 20% of voters calling for one may be enough to trigger a by-election instead of a unilateral behind closed doors decision about joining another party is made.
I would be interested in thoughts from readers on this issue. The WAP has not solved it and they have not even followed their own policy. If we are to do politics differently the recent example of the floor-crossing by the WAP is not a shining example.
I like your proposals, and I personally am against the backroom deal floor crossing that plagues the various legislatures and parliaments across the country. I would really prefer to see the independent route used for people who dislike their party (like Garth Turner initially used before he became a hypocrite and sat with the Liberals).
ReplyDeleteOpinion polls are out as they can be easily manipulated by clever wording or dishonest practices.
BC currently has a recall/referendum petition law, but it requires something like 40% of eligible voters (not just those who show up) to sign, so it'll never end up being implemented.
Nevertheless, it's pretty obvious that this "grassroots" and "democratic" party is neither (note especially how Ms. Smith will perpetually refuse to disclose her campaign donors).
I'm looking at the Wildrose Alliance Party's constitution and policies at www.wildrosealliance.ca, and nowhere do I see a policy on floor crossing. The constitution states only that caucus members must be members in good standing of the party. Can you provide a primary source for the alleged policy?
ReplyDeleteA foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson.
ReplyDeleteThat said, Ken, who cares if they have a floor-crossing policy? Let's see their policies on things that matter such as reducing government spending (especially on themselves), an increase in government saving, ... See Moreetc.
I personally would never vote for a party with extremist anti-labour, anti-gay, anti-abortion views, but I would like to see how their pro-business platform compares to the Conservatives. Who can crawl farther and faster up the colon of Big Oil.
Ready, set, . . .
I think there should absolutely be an election if someone wants to cross the floor. Until then, an MLA should sit as an Independent. I think this is the only way to approach this issue.
ReplyDeleteThe fact of the matter is, in Canadian politics, MLAs have to tow the party line. The actual person is basically irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. If an MLA crosses the floor, it says to the public "I don't care what you initially wanted, it doesn't suit ME anymore".
Maybe those constituencies would have voted WAP were they given the opportunity... but presuming that is the case is a bit of a slap in the face to democracy, legit political maneuver or not.
I just wanted to clarify, since I'm not all that cogent above:
ReplyDeleteVoters asked for a certain kind of representation. If an MLA crosses the floor, they may still provide some of that representation in party policy overlap, but since they have to tow Party B's line now, they can't provide what they initially promised by running as a rep for Party A. That's the part that grinds my gears (bad pop culture reference, I know).
Though, expecting politicians to keep promises is another topic in and of itself...
/end rant
Hi Ken, I noticed that Graham Thompson of the Edmonton Journal is asking the same questions as you. http://bit.ly/6ByKOn
ReplyDeleteI truly hope WAP does not intend on trying to win the election on name familiarity, or familial voting patterns based on some notion of consertative idenity, but I think I am asking to much.
It strikes me that to come up with a decent policy platform it takes money, time, expertise, and some sort of experience in government. With the same government in power for almost 40 years it weakens the ability of other parties to formulate decent policy given their "out of the loop" status.
I suspect the next election will NOT be about substance, but about good looks, positive allusion, and who seems to talk the best. The political science literature I have been reading these days seems to back me up on this point.
My 80 year old grandmother has told told me that she is going to vote for Danelle because because she "seems" like a good women. She would still vote for WAP even if their policies would put her on the streets.
Page 23 of Ralph Could Have Been a Superstar By Rich Vivone has a funny story of a meeting that former Liberal MLA Betty Hewes had with a group of senior citizens who were crying because they could not support themselves under cuts to seniors programs. She suggested to the group to vote for something other than Ralph. Despite their tears the group left her office while one senior said 'Not on your life sister.'
My question, and my fear is Alberta ready to get away from the cult of personality and take that extra step to vote for a party on substance ?
Consider these thoughts Ken at Reboot 2.0 and consider how we deal wit this delimma.
Hi Ken - While I agree with your comments about the infernal use by politicians of "the public wants", I also have concerns about the concept of holding politicians to the party they were elected. It is not that many years ago that ballots did not have party affiliation on them as the concept was and I beleive should be that we vote for the individual and not the party. I prefer to vote for the politics of the politician and not for the politics of the party.
ReplyDeleteI agree with "Chels."
ReplyDeleteThe most simplest and most respectful way to cross the floor is to resign from one party and sit as an independent for as long as it takes before voters can decide for themselves why exactly it is they vote... and if the "crossing" suits them.
During that time, said MLA/MP can continue to vote their conscience on all issues.
... or wait... we could just have more free votes in our legislative houses and we wouldn't have to worry about so much floor crossing.
That's an idea past due.
Resigning as an MLA (or MP) would work for me too but it does create extra costs for citizens.