I received this note from a friend outside the blogosphere. I promised not to identify the person but thought sharing our exchange might be interesting for readers. My friend writes:
Ken,
I enjoyed reading your analysis of the first vote, and the implications for round two. I'm not going to comment on the blog, but wanted to offer my perspective.
• My first take on the weekend was to agree that among existing voters, Edmonton is the battleground. More than 50% of the votes here have been freed-up to go to other candidates, versus just 17% in Calgary and 24% outside the two centres. But in absolute numbers, the vote total in Edmonton wasn't impressive, so that translates into about 11,800 round-one votes from Edmonton that need to find a home, but also 11,400 non-big-city votes looking.
• The potential for continued walk-up sales is enormous. I think there's a growing appreciation that in this one-party-state, all Albertans have a stake in the election for Premier. It wouldn't surprise me if 200,000 people voted in the final round, at which point the outcome becomes highly unpredictable and unmanageable. I think that also means that Thursday's televised debate could be a watershed moment -- if any of the candidates stumble in that showing, their walk-up support could disappear.
• 40% of Stelmach's vote (6,207 votes) came from just seven ridings -- the ones near his own -- and there were 44 ridings where he attracted fewer than 100 votes, including all of Calgary. This doesn't bode well for his growth on the second-ballot. On the other hand, it doesn't matter where the voter lives, as long as you get the vote. If Hancock has turned out every voter in his riding who voted for him in the provincial election, he'd be on the second ballot. (I'm being glib, but it's true.) So other than capturing the endorsements, campaigns may be best served playing to their strengths.
• If Stelmach moves into second place, it's clear that he'll win the final count going away. After all, how many Dinning or Morton supporters will be listing each other's candidate as their second choice. Ed is everyone's second choice. But he's got a lot of ground to make up before that fact can become useful.
• There is a strong argument to be made that social-conservative supporters will see how close their man is to victory and be motivated to turn-out. Likewise, centrist and left-leaning voters may turn up to stop Morton, and would probably back the front-runner. Is there a similar crop of motivated rural or northern-Alberta voters for Stelmach?
• The gold-star goes to Hung Pham. Between the Edmonton advance poll and Calgary-Montrose, he delivered 1,000 votes. Question: is he following Oberg's choice on the second ballot? And will he make the same organizational effort to deliver those 1,000 votes? These are perhaps the only votes that can be reliably "delivered" by any defeated candidate. I doubt that the endorsements from Hancock and Oberg will produce a high-level of cohesion from their voters, so I think your numbers in today's post are optimistic.
• A personal note: I think there are more important things in this campaign than the Edmonton/Calgary rivalry, and other than that motivation I don't see much reason to vote for Stelmach. I'll admit that I'm strongly motivated to vote against Morton, but that's one-half because of his ideology and one-half because he's completed unqualified to run the government. The man's never run an organization that's the size of cabinet, much less led a cabinet and caucus that in turn runs the province. A belief in good governance is a moral value too. Forget the firewall letter; let's talk about basic qualifications for the job.
Apologies for the long ramble, but your blog-posts got me thinking and I wanted to share some of this with you.
All the best,
AND I REPLY:
You are a wise and insightful man.
No growth in Calgary for Stelmach is pretty much a given. He holds his base and the Oberg voters are a question. Jim owns Calgary and the new votes there will be mostly for him and some for Morton.
There is a huge built up frustrated animus towards the Calgary power elites from all other sectors and areas of Alberta. Stelmach and Morton will be a lightening rods for that animus and people will show up to express it at the ballot box. "The North Wants In" is becoming a ballot box motivator for many Albertans Red Deer and north. "More Alberta - Less Ottawa" seems to resonate with Morton southerners.
There is also a profound distrust of the republican-lite/evangelical motivations of Morton from those not in his political "church." He has growth potential because they are close to achieving real power and feel they and been tricked and duped by Harper. The Quebec Nation question is perhaps their last straw I sense. So they will try to make Alberta into a U.S. Repubican-values caricature if they can't do it Nationally.
The fragmentation of our Alberta polity is becoming profound and pronounced and is not just an isolated Edmonton phenomenon any more.
Human decency, trustworthiness, respectfulness and authenticity counts for something amongst in fair minded people. Will that animate them to turn up. 100000 strong showed up last Saturday, almost from nowhere, on the coldest most miserable day of the year so far. That tells me Albertans will becoming out in droves on Saturday. Bad weather is not a negative factor but good weather will be a positive influence.
They are waking up to the campaign outcomes implications and walking up to the voting opportunity and most of all, they are stepping up to take back the ultimate decision about how they choose to be governed. The open question is who are they showing up to support? Today who knows? Saturday all will be decided but I bet not much will be clear.
Stelmach needs a successful political campaign this week. But he needs more than that. He needs a secular crusade to create a ground swell of individual engagement. That crusade needs to show up and give him a mandate for real change - and you know what - I think it might just happen. Yes it is a bit "Field of Dreams-ish" I know. But I am a sucker for romance.
Cheers!
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I agree with much of what your friend says, Ken, and again I'm impressed by the insight, decency and fairmindedness that characterize many of the exchanges found on your blog.
ReplyDeleteI enjoy the number crunching, reading the tea leaves of voter migration and drop off, but wonder about its usefulness in predicting Ed's finish on Saturday.
Two thoughts.
One, stuff happens. The news of federal MPs parachuting into Alberta to fight for Morton the Menace can only hurt Stelmach's chances of the all-important second place finish on Saturday, as moderate progressive conservatives move to Dinning as a stop measure. A now vastly more polarized campaign plays to the two front runners on the first ballot, squeezing out the middle ground. Would you agree?
Two, the inexplicable thinking of and unpredictable behaviour of the voter. Numbers can paint the picture of the voter psyche in broad strokes, but it's a volatile and fluid picture all the same.
Great example, and my second question for you today: I've spoken with a number of Ed's supporters who won't be putting Jim on their ballot as their second preference. Huh? I'm certainly putting Ed as mine, to support him against Morton if Jim doesn't make the one/two cut. Help me understand why Ed's people wouldn't think that way, too.
When I say that some of Ed's people
ReplyDeletewon't put Jim as their second preference, it's not that they're going to Morton. They don't want the Menace and they say so, they're just leaving the second spot blank. That doesn't make sense to me.
Hi Kevin From the Country
ReplyDeleteAnyone who does not mark a second preference is using their ballot to play Russian Roulette with the future of Alberta.
This leadership contest is a very nuanced given the results coming out of the first ballot and the "also-rans" support for Stelmach.
The final outcome is too close to call and the choices one makes December 2nd will profoundly impact us all. We want change - but a real change of heart and style, not just a "make-over" kind of change.
These are "interesting times" so we Albertans best be cautious and reflective so we don't get this Leader/Premier thing wrong. Given the enormous turnout Nov 25 and the buzz all over the province this week, no doubt Albertans have a sense of the import of events of Dec 2nd.
None of the candidates is perfect or we would have decided the outcome once and for all last Saturday.
We are not talking about having to make a deal with the devil or being stuck with the best of a bad bunch either. Each candidate has ability and skills but they are all very different people and will govern very differently too.
There is no coming up the middle candidate in this campaign. To see Stelmach as the compromise candidate is OK for the Morton Zealots and the Dinning Devotees. For them to have Stelmach as #2 is buying insurance against the uncertain vagarities of life.
For the rest of us he is easily a first choice. The values choice between Dinning and Morton is being framed as more of the same old-boys club or a fundamentalist republican-lite.
The values choice for Stelmach is
leadership that is actually humble, progressive, inclusive, capable and a committed Leader/Premier with bench strength who will, as a team, plan and deliver a better future for all Albertan's.
Stelmach is not the "nice" candidate - he is to my mind, as capable to govern as the rest of them given the uncertainity of out times. In fact his personal qualities may make him even more capable to govern the next Alberta.
He is not the thinly disguised front man for any faction or segment of our society either. He is the "everyman candidate."
My Ballot will be Stelmach #1 and Dinning #2.
And I won't be holding my nose when I vote Ed for #2. I like him and he'd do a great job. As a Dinning Devotee (thank you for not using "dilettante") I just think Jim would do better as Premier - and I wonder why Jim doesn't get credit for bench strength, for example, when he has 30+ MLAs and Ministers on side.
ReplyDeleteI'm not being simplistic, either, in my view of this "nuanced" last week and the Saturday vote. What I'm suggesting is that in a time of great struggle, people on either side look to strong champions. Clearly that's Jim and Morton for the majority of PC members, based on last week's vote. And based, too, on Jim being named as second preference by the majority of supporters of other candidates, as your friend pointed out.
Ed will be seen increasingly as the compromise candidate, but by a smaller number of voters who occupy the vanishing middle ground. That translates into a third place finish, I think, even if in a different context he's a legitimate #1 guy.
I'm glad Jim's your #2 guy. Please encourage your friends to consider that as well.
Kevin from the country:
ReplyDelete"When I say that some of Ed's people
won't put Jim as their second preference, it's not that they're going to Morton."
You're out of touch with reality - the race is now between Morton and Stelmach. Rural AB has lifted this middle finger at Dinning - he's finished.
Ken -
ReplyDeleteNot sure I agree with the analysis here. I think this is a class risk/reward tradeoff, and that people will vote to hedge their risk. The danger of Morton outweighs the benefit of Ed (who I agree is suitable, but by no means an outstanding candidate), thus driving votes to Dinning.
Thankfully, the vote is Saturday, and not Monday, which eliminates any church pew sermons.
--TimG from Texas.
You guys simply don't understand rural Alberta. They are NOT going to vote for Dinning. Period.
ReplyDeleteI know many individuals from Ed's campaign in his power districts - they are all supporting Ted on their second ballot. They want real change. They do not want a corporate Calgary candidate dictating to rural Alberta.
Dinning supporter: please understand that Dinning no longer stands a chance and should step down and support Eddy. If he truly believed in his convictions and truly believed that Morton should not lead, then he would step down. Unfortunately, it's all about Jim.
Come Saturday, the results will be:
1. Dinning.
2. Morton.
3. Stelmach.
Morton will be close behind Dinning and Ed's supporters will put him over the threshold.